The Pluribus cast unpacks Carol and Manousos tense meet-up: It says a lot about being human

The 'Pluribus' cast unpacks Carol and Manousos' tense meet-up: 'It says a lot about being human' Belen Edwards Read Full Bio The crossover Pluribus viewers have been waiting for finally became a reality in the Season 1 finale , as the world's number one hive-mind haters, Carol Sturka (Rhea Seehorn) and Manousos Oviedo (Carlos-Manuel Vesga), meet up for the first time. However, the pair's first meeting is less an enthusiastic team-up than it is two of the most stubborn people on Earth duking it out. And Vesga wouldn't have it any other way. "I did expect a kind of clash between them, and I was hoping for it, because actually it says a lot about being human," Vesga told Mashable in a video interview alongside Karolina Wydra, who plays Zosia. "The Joining is a group of people who never argue, who are always agreeing on everything. What makes [Carol and Manousos] real humans is that they actually don't see things eye to eye. They both agree that this has to be changed, and we need to change it back to what it was, but not necessarily the same way." You May Also Like A big reason for the disconnect is that, in the time it's taken for Manousos to journey from Paraguay to Albuquerque, Carol's started a relationship with Zosia , who is herself an extension of the hive mind. Because of this relationship, Carol's views of the Others have softened, while Manousos is more determined than ever to destroy them. "When he gets to Albuquerque, Carol is not the same Carol," Vesga explained. "I remember reading the script and thinking, 'Oh my God, he's going to hate her. He's going to resent her.' She's the worst traitor ever, she sent me this VHS cassette, and I see this recording, and I go through what I went through..." "Well, you did take a long time," Wydra joked. "I'm sorry I don't drive faster!" Vesga said. Seehorn, too, relished the conflict between Carol and Manousos. Terms of Use and Privacy Policy . "They're both these immovable objects and so intent that their opinion is right," Seehorn told Mashable in a video interview. "Hopefully the audience can see both points of view throughout the scene. Like, he showed up with a machete. That's not exactly a subtle move. And Carol, even pre-Zosia, has always felt bad about actually hurting any of these people and does not believe they should be obliterated." The newly forged Zosia connection definitely adds an extra layer to Carol's motivations throughout the scene, though. The meeting was the scene Seehorn and Vesga read together for Vesga's audition, at which point Seehorn hadn't had access to the rest of the Season 1 scripts. Still, from just those few pages she could tell that Carol was hiding something, and that Manousos was sniffing it out. "I loved the power dynamic shifting, where she sees that he can tell that she's lying," Seehorn said. "Even with the language barrier, she's so...

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